I’ve written before about the differences in the dating cultures from Ireland to America. One of the big things which has become much more acceptable here, while it still isn’t as accepted in Ireland is Internet Dating.
I’ve tried Online dating in the past but I’m always somewhat sceptical, as most people are really. See, its hard to find a needle in a haystack, people have different reasons for trying online dating. For some, like myself it’s just because you find yourself looking for new ways to meet people as your huge social circle from your college days becomes a tighter group of close friends. For others you never know the reasons, it’s been said some women just like the ego boost. Maybe true for some but I think these are just the minority. For most I think they go into it hoping that just maybe they’ll find that tall dark stranger which sweeps them off their feet but get frustrated with with 50-100 messages a day just saying, “Sup?”, shirtless photos in the bathroom mirror or just being plain boring… At least thats what I’m told.
I’ll be honest. I read up a little, how to be “good” at online dating and to be brutal about it, most tips online just suck ass.
So we have the direct method. Write and tell her you DEMAND she reply and take you to dinner. (Cocky/Funny?) Or in some way try to be “Alpha”. I tried it, as uncomfortable as it was… really got no results. I don’t see many girls going for it.
Chat Up lines. Just don’t…
So what works? This isn’t a definitive guide by any means. But I’ve got a lot of good conversations, numbers, emails, facebooks, etc with this. Firstly, it goes without saying, your profile means a lot. When you start, its easy to enter “I’ll fill this in later” and assume she’ll be swept away with your good looks but its unlikely. Girls read profiles! Guys take a hint! You need a good story… yes, a story. Don’t just list your interests, qualifications, and your resume… make it a little story of how and why you are where you are in life (make it positive!). I found this got me a lot more messages. Don’t just say “I’m a doctor”, add a little story as to how or why you ended up being a doctor, make it interesting, even a little funny but try not to use any self deprecating humour and please don’t try to do stand-up comedy. Just keep it light but entertaining to read. THIS. GETS. VOTES.
Keep it short, nobody is going to read a novel, but don’t just give a one liner, shows you are not bothered.
The first message. I found that I got the most replies from just being honest. Just say Hi, introduce yourself and try to make a nice comment. Don’t compliment her appearance! It might seem like the right thing to do, but honestly, you need to stand out from all the other messages saying “Baby, baby, sup, ur hot xxx”. Comment on something she’s doing in a photo, or comment on something she said in her profile. Just the very fact that you do this showed you actually looked at her profile! Most guys just group mail every decent looking girl they come across and don’t read a thing. Time consuming? Yes! Worth the return in ratio of replies vs. other methods? Yes! Be sincere, say something about yourself and how you noticed “….” on her profile was cute or interesting or something.
Listing your interests. Everyone says the same things here, or a subset of the same thing… movies, music, sports, etc… Try to stand out. Don’t lie but be specific or put something unusual or funny or kinda silly, something they will ask you about. Remember, the point is to get her interested in something about you.. don’t be bland.
The conversation. Ok, I think a girl knows early enough if she has any interest in you. If she doesn’t reply, just leave it. But if she does… Have an interesting conversation. Tell her about something fun you did/are doing. Play a game with her, role play, just be fun. Don’t fall into the category of “How was your day, mine was fine…”. You’ve just turned a girl who was semi interested in your profile into adding you to the “Next…” category. Just be interesting, ask her questions but tell her about you, just seed it with things she can ask you about, she WANTS something to talk to you about. Just be interesting. Don’t come across forward, cocky, rude, trying too hard to be funny. Just pretend you’re just playing around chatting to your kid sister. Keep messages short, 1 or 2 paragraphs of just a couple of sentence is probably fine but no more than that. If she begins to write longer replies, you can stretch yours too… if she’s bothering to write that much to you, she’s interested.
Asking for the number. This isn’t a hard and fast rule but politely ask if she’d like to swap details somewhere between 3-5 messages into the conversation. It might seem too soon but if she’s willing, then you know she’s interested. The problem with waiting 20-30 messages is that you’re now her “internet buddy” and the initial interest she had beings to wane as conversation runs dry and becomes mundane. You don’t even have to get a number, an email or facebook is just as good but try to take the conversation away from the dating site. If you get a number, I prefer texting. Some might disagree here but if you’ve got a number this early then I think calling is too much, you’re still a stranger from the internet. Exchange a few texts and keep her laughing. If that goes well you can try to arrange to meet for drinks.
The thing about all of this is that you ARE being judged initially by a 100×100 pixel image so it is, sort of, a numbers game. Expect girls not to reply. They aren’t always being bitchy, cute and interesting girls get a LOT of messages each day, they won’t reply to them all, sometimes won’t be interested… just do your best to try and stand out in a good way. Even though it’s a numbers game, remember what I said about reading the profiles… you might have to message a lot of girls to find a few to chat with, but don’t just spam every girl on the site. Honestly, it doesn’t help.
Also expect flaking… during the conversation, after you get a number and even after you set a date to meet up. Don’t be down about it. A lot of the time it’s just cold feet. In Ireland, although online dating is growing in popularity, it’s just not accepted that much. Meeting someone from the internet is perceived as “weird” still. I find that in America, it’s a much more accepted way of meeting people (there’s even a lot of “meet up” web sites which are just for finding like minded friends and have nothing to do with dating) and therefore it’s a little easier here. But all that said, the chances are, she’s found quite a few weird dudes on the site and even if she was initially interested in you, when it comes to actually meeting someone in person from the internet, she might just get cold feet. Heck, I’ve got cold feet, as I said, it’s not something accepted in Ireland, so if I meet a girl, I’m usually hoping SHE’S not some weirdo from the internet. But given my integration into the American culture, I did give it a try. I’ve met a few girls from it and I have to say, most were great women and I was very glad I went through with it. Give it a try guys, what is there to lose?
Try it out guys, I hope some of this is a help. It’s a bit of a brain dump of information here. I might write something more structured in the future if this posts gets any interest.